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		<title>By: Steven Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Drew,

I agree with your comments on the study above - outright &quot;bullshit&quot; it just goes to show that a Ph.D doesn&#039;t mean you know much about &quot;exercise&quot;.

Lance Armstrong is currently in Australia bike racing, an article called &quot;The Power Within&quot; appeared in one of our national newspapers outlining his HR, VO2 max, muscular leg power, and the amount of watts he can produce. Lance Armstrong holds legendary status as an endurance athlete and I would never attempt to lessen his legendary status as an endurance athlete.

Doug McGuff in BBS &quot;Global Metabolic Conditioning&quot; (p.38-39), Greg Anderson in his article has addressed the Cardiovascular/VO2 max testing procedures. Doug McGuff statyed that, &quot;The problem with VO2 max testing is that when your only tool is a hammer, the whole world becomes a nail&quot;. I presume that all Lance Armstrongs Cardiovasular/VO2 testing is done on a bike.

The other point that I wanted to make from the article in this is statement, &quot;Through the years of training, Armstrong muscles changed from 60 percent slow-twitch fibre to 80 percent&quot;. Besides the endurance training required for ridng in races like the Tour De France I would presume that Lance Armstrong must do a lot of high power output training on leg extension machines but his muscles fibers are converting to slow twitch - to me the newspapaer article inferring that it is better to have more slow twtich fibers&quot; - &quot;confusing&quot; is it better to have slow twitch or fast twitch fibers? 

The newspaper article also states &quot;A Better Alternative energy source? &quot;If the electricity created by Armstrong&#039;s 500 watts of power output over 20 minutes was converted to energy for you household he could power.&quot; (many household appliances)...&quot;When riding uphill Armstrong can generate almost 500 watts of power over 20 minutes. A healthy 25 year old can exert the same wattage over almost 30 seconds. A typical fit sportsman might be able to exert that pressure for three minutes before reachinjg the fail point&quot;.

Is Lance Armstrong&#039;s peak power output from slow contractions or from fast contractions - endurance is supposed to based on slow steady state training but here we have an athlete with something like 1000 times more peak power output than the average person. Is peak power output from slow twitch fibers or fast twitch fibers? I wonder if Roger Fielding could answer?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Drew,</p>
<p>I agree with your comments on the study above &#8211; outright &#8220;bullshit&#8221; it just goes to show that a Ph.D doesn&#8217;t mean you know much about &#8220;exercise&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lance Armstrong is currently in Australia bike racing, an article called &#8220;The Power Within&#8221; appeared in one of our national newspapers outlining his HR, VO2 max, muscular leg power, and the amount of watts he can produce. Lance Armstrong holds legendary status as an endurance athlete and I would never attempt to lessen his legendary status as an endurance athlete.</p>
<p>Doug McGuff in BBS &#8220;Global Metabolic Conditioning&#8221; (p.38-39), Greg Anderson in his article has addressed the Cardiovascular/VO2 max testing procedures. Doug McGuff statyed that, &#8220;The problem with VO2 max testing is that when your only tool is a hammer, the whole world becomes a nail&#8221;. I presume that all Lance Armstrongs Cardiovasular/VO2 testing is done on a bike.</p>
<p>The other point that I wanted to make from the article in this is statement, &#8220;Through the years of training, Armstrong muscles changed from 60 percent slow-twitch fibre to 80 percent&#8221;. Besides the endurance training required for ridng in races like the Tour De France I would presume that Lance Armstrong must do a lot of high power output training on leg extension machines but his muscles fibers are converting to slow twitch &#8211; to me the newspapaer article inferring that it is better to have more slow twtich fibers&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;confusing&#8221; is it better to have slow twitch or fast twitch fibers? </p>
<p>The newspaper article also states &#8220;A Better Alternative energy source? &#8220;If the electricity created by Armstrong&#8217;s 500 watts of power output over 20 minutes was converted to energy for you household he could power.&#8221; (many household appliances)&#8230;&#8221;When riding uphill Armstrong can generate almost 500 watts of power over 20 minutes. A healthy 25 year old can exert the same wattage over almost 30 seconds. A typical fit sportsman might be able to exert that pressure for three minutes before reachinjg the fail point&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is Lance Armstrong&#8217;s peak power output from slow contractions or from fast contractions &#8211; endurance is supposed to based on slow steady state training but here we have an athlete with something like 1000 times more peak power output than the average person. Is peak power output from slow twitch fibers or fast twitch fibers? I wonder if Roger Fielding could answer?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Baye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Baye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 05:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I&#039;d have to see the full text of the study to be able to provide a detailed response, but overall, it is bullshit. It is unnecessary to move quickly to recruit fast twitch muscle fibers. If a heavy enough weight is used, all motor units are recruited very early in an exercise regardless of the speed of movement, and a slow speed of movement is safer and provides more consistent tension over the full range of the exercise. Moving quickly during exercise will not produce better results, and is more likely to produce injury, especially in the elderly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to see the full text of the study to be able to provide a detailed response, but overall, it is bullshit. It is unnecessary to move quickly to recruit fast twitch muscle fibers. If a heavy enough weight is used, all motor units are recruited very early in an exercise regardless of the speed of movement, and a slow speed of movement is safer and provides more consistent tension over the full range of the exercise. Moving quickly during exercise will not produce better results, and is more likely to produce injury, especially in the elderly.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 04:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you think o fthis thought that i came across re training fast twitch muscle fibers: &quot; REMEMBER &quot;superslow&quot; lifting? Forget it. A Boston University study led by Roger A. Fielding, Ph.D., found that performing rapid contractile movements--such as a speedy upstroke on a leg extension--brings back your thick, powerful fast-twitch muscle fibers more quickly. Unlike the smoother, aerobically oriented slow-twitch fibers, the fast-twitch variety will wither substantially by 50; without stimulation, they can virtually disappear in old age.

AMONG A TEST group of seniors, Fielding discovered that superfast contractions stimulated far greater fast-twitch fiber size and peak power output than slow contractions. 

So hit the triceps, as it is predominantly (90%) composed of fast-twitch fibers, says Michael Bemben, Ph.D., director of the Neuromuscular Research Lab at the University of Oklahoma. Also, pound calves and forearms, which wither quickly for another reason: They&#039;re routinely stressed less than muscles nearer the body&#039;s core.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do you think o fthis thought that i came across re training fast twitch muscle fibers: &#8221; REMEMBER &#8220;superslow&#8221; lifting? Forget it. A Boston University study led by Roger A. Fielding, Ph.D., found that performing rapid contractile movements&#8211;such as a speedy upstroke on a leg extension&#8211;brings back your thick, powerful fast-twitch muscle fibers more quickly. Unlike the smoother, aerobically oriented slow-twitch fibers, the fast-twitch variety will wither substantially by 50; without stimulation, they can virtually disappear in old age.</p>
<p>AMONG A TEST group of seniors, Fielding discovered that superfast contractions stimulated far greater fast-twitch fiber size and peak power output than slow contractions. </p>
<p>So hit the triceps, as it is predominantly (90%) composed of fast-twitch fibers, says Michael Bemben, Ph.D., director of the Neuromuscular Research Lab at the University of Oklahoma. Also, pound calves and forearms, which wither quickly for another reason: They&#8217;re routinely stressed less than muscles nearer the body&#8217;s core.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Drew,

I recently purchased Bill DeSimone Moment Arm Exercise book, Bill uses the term &quot;Congruence&quot;, &quot;If the Resistance torque of an exercise is congruent with muscle torque of the targeted muscles, that is a good exercise. I would describe many functional type movements as &quot;incongruent&quot;.

In one of our National Newsapapers an article appeared called &quot;Bust a move: Perfect Your Technique&quot;, one of the exercises is called Band Rows  (standing, feet shoulder width apart), Point 3 - Leaning back as you pull -  This is an indication that you core muscles are not stabilising you through the movement. Ensure your core is engaged from the start. 

In Moment Arm Exercises Standing Bicep Curl exercises Bill suggests a &quot;semi-squat or split stance to help minimise the shift foward of your centre of gravity and relieve some effort from the deep back.&quot;  

Bill also outlines &quot;Congruent Row Variations&quot; one method Bill outlines, &quot;positioning the torso to work with the deep muscles to oppose the line of resistance&quot;.

In Professor Lederman paper he mentions re-examining some basic assumptions made in relation to &quot;Core Stability&quot;.

My questions, how much more strength would be required by the abdominals and TrA to stablise the upperbody in the standing Band Rows? Or to overcome the technique problem as outlined in the Band Rows could it be that simple to use a split stance to help maintain your centre of gravity.

The above article is not a one off by the author every week similar articles appear on Functional movement exercises and &quot;Core Stability&quot;. 

What I see is that many people are being encouraged to do do lots of &quot;Incongruent Exercises&quot;, lots of inefficent and lots of ineffective exercises and The &quot;Myth of Core Stability&quot; continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Drew,</p>
<p>I recently purchased Bill DeSimone Moment Arm Exercise book, Bill uses the term &#8220;Congruence&#8221;, &#8220;If the Resistance torque of an exercise is congruent with muscle torque of the targeted muscles, that is a good exercise. I would describe many functional type movements as &#8220;incongruent&#8221;.</p>
<p>In one of our National Newsapapers an article appeared called &#8220;Bust a move: Perfect Your Technique&#8221;, one of the exercises is called Band Rows  (standing, feet shoulder width apart), Point 3 &#8211; Leaning back as you pull &#8211;  This is an indication that you core muscles are not stabilising you through the movement. Ensure your core is engaged from the start. </p>
<p>In Moment Arm Exercises Standing Bicep Curl exercises Bill suggests a &#8220;semi-squat or split stance to help minimise the shift foward of your centre of gravity and relieve some effort from the deep back.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Bill also outlines &#8220;Congruent Row Variations&#8221; one method Bill outlines, &#8220;positioning the torso to work with the deep muscles to oppose the line of resistance&#8221;.</p>
<p>In Professor Lederman paper he mentions re-examining some basic assumptions made in relation to &#8220;Core Stability&#8221;.</p>
<p>My questions, how much more strength would be required by the abdominals and TrA to stablise the upperbody in the standing Band Rows? Or to overcome the technique problem as outlined in the Band Rows could it be that simple to use a split stance to help maintain your centre of gravity.</p>
<p>The above article is not a one off by the author every week similar articles appear on Functional movement exercises and &#8220;Core Stability&#8221;. </p>
<p>What I see is that many people are being encouraged to do do lots of &#8220;Incongruent Exercises&#8221;, lots of inefficent and lots of ineffective exercises and The &#8220;Myth of Core Stability&#8221; continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Baye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Baye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience the best increases in strength and size have come from negative-only and rest pause training, which allows the use of heavier weight than regular repetitions. The method of lifting and the load used are related, and are both important. This is discussed more detail in the upcoming book on HIT and mass gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience the best increases in strength and size have come from negative-only and rest pause training, which allows the use of heavier weight than regular repetitions. The method of lifting and the load used are related, and are both important. This is discussed more detail in the upcoming book on HIT and mass gains.</p>
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		<title>By: overfiftylifter</title>
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		<dc:creator>overfiftylifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Baye, in your past training/coaching experience what level of load is necessary to produce hypertrophy changes? Do you find that it is the amount of the load that is significant or the way the load is utilized? Can lesser loads be used to produce significant gains?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Baye, in your past training/coaching experience what level of load is necessary to produce hypertrophy changes? Do you find that it is the amount of the load that is significant or the way the load is utilized? Can lesser loads be used to produce significant gains?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Baye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Baye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all. Where hypertrophy is concerned tension is far, far more important, and with rest-pause a much heavier weight can be used. In his book on Max Stim training, a variation on rest-pause, Dan Moore presented a large amount of research which suggested certain aspects of fatigue may interfere with rather than contribute to a greater hypertrophic response. While I am aware of some Japanese studies which produced significant hypertrophy with occlusion at lower training loads, my experience training clients with rest-pause has been it produces greater strength and hypertrophy increases than continuous reps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all. Where hypertrophy is concerned tension is far, far more important, and with rest-pause a much heavier weight can be used. In his book on Max Stim training, a variation on rest-pause, Dan Moore presented a large amount of research which suggested certain aspects of fatigue may interfere with rather than contribute to a greater hypertrophic response. While I am aware of some Japanese studies which produced significant hypertrophy with occlusion at lower training loads, my experience training clients with rest-pause has been it produces greater strength and hypertrophy increases than continuous reps.</p>
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		<title>By: overfiftylifter</title>
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		<dc:creator>overfiftylifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Baye, for the purpose of hypertrophy, isn&#039;t it important to provide a local hormonal/chemical environment that is more occlusive in nature which rest-pause would hinder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Baye, for the purpose of hypertrophy, isn&#8217;t it important to provide a local hormonal/chemical environment that is more occlusive in nature which rest-pause would hinder?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Baye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Baye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

The popularity of &quot;core stability&quot; training is just another an indication of how utterly clueless most people are about proper exercise. I&#039;ve worked with a lot of people with a variety of back problems including some pretty severe ones (one grade three spondylolisthesis) and all improved considerably with basic, brief high intensity training routines made up of conventional machine and free weight exercises. No balance balls, Bosu, wobble boards, twist boards, or any other circus nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>The popularity of &#8220;core stability&#8221; training is just another an indication of how utterly clueless most people are about proper exercise. I&#8217;ve worked with a lot of people with a variety of back problems including some pretty severe ones (one grade three spondylolisthesis) and all improved considerably with basic, brief high intensity training routines made up of conventional machine and free weight exercises. No balance balls, Bosu, wobble boards, twist boards, or any other circus nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Baye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Baye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Training to failure and performing rest-pause are not mutually exclusive. Failure occurs during a rest-pause set when it is impossible to perform another repetition in proper form after the prescribed rest period. Whether rest-pause is better than continuous loading depends on the goal. In the &lt;a href=&quot;http://baye.com/experiments-with-rest-pause-training/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rest-pause experiment&lt;/a&gt; I performed with identical twins the twin performing rest-pause had a greater increase in strength, while the twin performing continuous repetitions had a greater increase in muscular endurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training to failure and performing rest-pause are not mutually exclusive. Failure occurs during a rest-pause set when it is impossible to perform another repetition in proper form after the prescribed rest period. Whether rest-pause is better than continuous loading depends on the goal. In the <a href="http://baye.com/experiments-with-rest-pause-training/" rel="nofollow">rest-pause experiment</a> I performed with identical twins the twin performing rest-pause had a greater increase in strength, while the twin performing continuous repetitions had a greater increase in muscular endurance.</p>
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