Q&A: Repetition Speed, Recruitment and Stimulation

This Q&A is a response to several questions I’ve recently received. Since they’re all related I’m going to answer them together.

Since intentionally moving slowly during exercise involves less than a maximum effort wouldn’t it reduce motor unit recruitment and the effectiveness of the exercise?

No. Motor unit recruitment is determined by the amount of force the muscles are required to produce in order of size starting with the smallest motor units with the fewest fibers and ending with the largest with the most fibers. Regardless of the speed of movement if the weight is heavy enough (adequate to cause momentary muscular failure within a minute or two) you will recruit all of the motor units in the muscles being worked within a few reps. After all of the motor units have been recruited and are fatiguing further increases in force production are achieved by increasing rate-coding (the frequency of the signal to the motor units to contract).

Even if you are intentionally moving slowly at first, if the weight is heavy enough you will eventually have to contract as intensely as possible to lift it. Effort is relative to your momentary strength. As fatigue reduces your strength during an exercise the weight requires a larger percentage of your mometary ability which is why it feels progressively heavier. For example, a weight that only requires is 80% of your available strength at the beginning of an exercise will require an 89% effort at the moment fatigue has reduced your strength by 10% (80/90 = 0.89 or 89%) and when fatigue has reduced your strength by 20% you are contracting with 100% of your momentary strength just to hold the weight (80/80 = 1 or 100%). By this point in the exercise every motor unit in the working muscles has already been involved for a while.

My personal trainer told me I have to lift explosively to recruit the high-threshold type IIB motor units which have the greatest potential for hypertrophy and that slow reps only recruit the slow-twitch, type I fibers.

Your trainer doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

The terms “fast” and “slow” in fast and slow twitch muscle fibers refer to the twitch speed – how quickly the fibers can reach maximum tension – not the speed of movement they produce. Fast twitch fibers reach maximum tension between around 50 and 80 milliseconds, slow around 100 to 200 milliseconds. On average this is a difference of only 85 ms, less than one hundredth of a second. The biggest difference between fast and slow twitch fibers is the relative fatigue and recovery rates; fast twitch fibers fatigue more rapidly and recover more slowly, slow twitch fibers fatigue more slowly and recover more rapidly.

Contrary to popular misinterpretation of their names, your muscles’ slow twitch fibers are capable of producing very fast movements and your fast twitch fibers will be recruited during even the slowest movements if the resistance is high enough.

For example, an isometric contraction is about as slow as it gets during exercise – you don’t move at all. However, when performing timed static contractions or heavy static holds you will recruit even the high threshold fast twitch motor units because the muscles need to recruit all of their motor units to produce the required amount of force.

Moving fast is neither necessary for recruiting the fast twitch motor units nor more effective for that purpose. The only thing moving faster tends to do is compromise form and increase the risk of injury. The idea one must “train fast to be fast” or that “slow training makes you slow” is nonsense.

My coach said I have to lift explosively to improve power. How am I supposed to increase my power for (football, martial arts, golf, etc.) if I don’t train explosively?

Your coach doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m guessing he also told you power cleans were the best way to improve your ability to explode off the line, punch hard, increase the force of your golf swing, and become rich and good looking, which would make him doubly ignorant.

If you want to become more powerful in general you just have to train to become stronger, and you can do that training fast or slow. Power is the amount of work you can perform over a period of time. Work is force x displacement. A stronger muscle can produce more force, meaning you can either move a greater mass over the same distance in the same period of time, move the same mass over more distance in the same period of time, or move the same mass over the same distance in less time.

For example, if the most you can lift in an exercise one time is 200 pounds you won’t be able to lift it very quickly. If you increase your strength so that you can lift 250 pounds in that exercise, you will be able to lift 200 pounds more quickly.

If you want to become more powerful in a specific movement you must also learn and practice the skill of performing that movement in a way that makes efficient use of the strength of the involved muscles. Skill improvement is very specific; to become more skilled at a movement you must practice that movement, not something that somewhat resembles it, not a similar movement while holding a weight or with something heavier than you would normally use, but the exact movement.

Many well-meaning but misinformed coaches and trainers will tell you doing power cleans will result in a transfer of explosiveness to just about any other activity. They’re wrong. The only thing power cleans are good for is improving your ability to perform power cleans. They are relatively ineffective for improving the strength of the involved muscles when compared to other exercises, have a greater risk of injury, and will do nothing at all to improve your skill in any other movement. If you are a competitive Olympic lifter you must perform cleans as part of your training for the clean and jerk, but there is no good reason for anyone else to do them.

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  • Bruce Gavelsmith Oct 23, 2010 @ 21:48

    Very good article Drew. After reading what you had to say about Max Contraction Training and static contractions I’m wondering why would one need to perform dynamic contractions. From an accuracy standpoint if one doesn’t move there is no chance of using momentum or cheating.

    • Drew Baye Oct 23, 2010 @ 22:01

      During exercises involving multiple muscle groups the relative contribution of those muscles may change significantly from position to position over the range of motion, so if the exercise was only performed isometrically in one position it might not provide optimal stimulation for all of the muscles. This is different than the specificity of strength gains to the range of motion trained, which I believe has more to do with neural adaptations.

  • Justin Park Oct 24, 2010 @ 15:06

    Drew,
    thanks for keeping this great information coming. I’m new to this model – after I read ‘Body by Science’ a few months ago and have been putting it into practice. My question is that while I would like to utilize this model for building overall conditioning…I have as a long time goal to be able to do 100+ pushups & pullups of my age (35). Is this possible using this model…will I need to incorporate a few more sets (to failure) or more reps.

    The question may be, ‘why use that as a standard’…it is a long term goal I have had and something many of the elite spec. ops hold as unspoken standards/goals.

    Most of what I have tried and read about how to reach these capacities are high sets and high reps in each set…thus my elbows and shoulders eventually get tweeky from repetitive strain.

    Any thoughts on using HIT to reach these kinds of goals?

    thanks, Justin

  • Richard Oct 25, 2010 @ 0:27

    I have been training for many years since 1973. Your intelligent and clearly written articles are a breath of fresh air. I only wish this knowledge was available long ago. Thank you and continue your excellent work. Richard

  • Steven Turner Oct 25, 2010 @ 16:57

    Hi Drew,

    Great article – I read some where Arthur Jones said (words to the effect) that lifting a weight actually slows the limb speed of movement as compared to when lifting no resistance. The leg speed of movement without a resistance is significantly faster than when resistance is applied – try running in water

    Slow twitch and fast twitch fibres “confusion” or is it “misleading” I wonder how many people have made a living out of ‘misleading” people into thinking that fast twitch means that you must you lift a weight fast.

    It seems in today’s athletic world that practicing sports specific skills is “a dirty word” it appears that athletes are asked to do all these different types of ecclectic training methods but ask athletes to practice specific skills training.

    It was reported in one of the newspaper recently that Australian cricketers spent most of their time in the gym and very little time practicising sports specific skills.

  • Thomas Oct 29, 2010 @ 9:34

    Great article, Drew. Your delivery is very strong-you’re a fighter, not a lover I guess. But, when you’re right, your right. I’m curious-are you more diplomatic when talking to other professionals in person? Talking about training is like talking about politics or religion-it can get down right dangerous. Anyway, nice article and hurry up with your book already!

    • Drew Baye Oct 29, 2010 @ 9:59

      If anything I’m less diplomatic. During college I argued with my exercise physiology professor weekly. Once he got so frustrated with me he said something to the effect of “if you know so much, why don’t you teach the class?” So I did. I once attended a presentation on exercise for the elderly with some co-workers and got so fed up with the utterly stupid and dangerous advice the speaker was giving I just took over. I stood up, told her she didn’t know what the hell she was talking about, pointed out several problems with the advice she gave, then turned around and addressed the audience myself.

  • Thomas Oct 29, 2010 @ 10:36

    Drew-an article on exercise for the elderly-special considerations, I guess-would be great. This group of people are very interested in the HIT approach-I train 5-7 elderly people weekly, all having health issues (Hip replacement, diabetes, arthritis, etc.). Most of them think that walking daily is enough exercise, and maybe doing some easy and sloppy weight training. I take my trainees through a BBS style workout-but not superslow (more of a 3/3-5/5 cadence). The results have been increadible. Most are skeptical that these results can be attained doing 15 minutes of training once per week-they change their mind when sthe intensity gets high.

    • Drew Baye Oct 29, 2010 @ 11:43

      Thomas,

      Will do. I’ve had quite a few requests to write something about high intensity training for the elderly and it’s on my “writing topics” list.

  • Fabio Dec 20, 2010 @ 16:16

    Drew,

    Which part of repetition causes the muscular soreness, several hours after a workout?

    Thanks

    • Drew Baye Dec 20, 2010 @ 17:52

      Fabio,

      The negative part of the repetition is most responsible for post-workout soreness.

  • Joe Garlant Jan 1, 2011 @ 21:27

    Something that keeps coming to after reading alot the articles on here is just how important is the set length or time under load? I understand that you don’t want to use a resistance that’s so heavy that you can’t lift it in good form. How important is the level at which you push yourself toward failure? If I’m understanding correctly the level of resistance or tension is the main stimulant of hypertophy?

    • Drew Baye Jan 1, 2011 @ 22:53

      Joe,

      That is correct. While fatigue and microtrauma are contributing factors, the primary factor appears to be developing a high level of tension.

  • Joe Garlant Jan 2, 2011 @ 13:06

    My thinking was why wouldn’t a one rep set work? As far making an inroad into recovery ability this would of course make the least. You did say that fatigue and microtrauma are contributing factors. Would a one rep set be a logical starting point? If one rep didn’t produce results you only have one direction to go.

    • Drew Baye Jan 2, 2011 @ 14:10

      Joe,

      A one rep set will work. I know someone who has had good results training this way in the past, performing a single very slow repetition – lifting in approximately 30 seconds, holding briefly, then lowering as slowly as possible. Some people have also achieved impressive strength and size increases training with even briefer isometric contraction. Any method of training that is done hard and progressively with an appropriate volume and frequency for the individual will produce good results.

      However, there are several important advantages to using a range of repetitions, including safety, easier quantification and evaluation of progress, etc. In the book I am working on I have a section on repetition range covering the principles behind using a range of repetitions.

      • Joel Dec 17, 2012 @ 3:37

        what would you say the appropriate volume of TUL is for a set?

        • Drew Baye Dec 21, 2012 @ 9:28

          Joel,

          A variety repetition ranges and time periods can be effective, but I like to start people with a rep range which results in about 60 to 90 seconds TUL and adjust from there based on individual response.

  • Justin Park Jan 3, 2011 @ 21:13

    Hey Drew,

    so I have been trying your suggestion that you emailed me regarding getting to 100+ pushups…but am plateaued for a few months now (working out once per week, your push up suggestions & rest of workout slow reps – one set…about 5 other exercises…high intensity).

    now I recognize that some how something I am doing must be wrong…but I have always been a hard gainer…slow to progress.

    …anyway I think this discussion of how many reps…how fast, etc. is relevant to those of us who want to be able to bust out 100+ push ups or 25+ pullups.

    any thoughts?

    Thanks, Justin

    • Drew Baye Jan 4, 2011 @ 19:34

      Justin,

      If your primary goal is to improve your push ups I recommend taking a week off then cutting back to just the following workout twice weekly for the next four to six weeks:

      1. Pushups: One set of continuous repetitions at a controlled pace to failure, followed immediately by as many rest-pause repetitions as you can do with only 5 to 10 seconds of rest in between.
      2. Deadlifts: One set of 7 to 10 reps with a 5 to 10 second rest-pause between reps.

      If you haven’t already, I also recommend having someone else push you through these workouts. It helps both to have someone there to motivate you as well as to count reps and make sure you don’t let your reps get sloppy.

  • Justin Park Jan 4, 2011 @ 21:58

    Drew,

    …This is great…I’ll take any suggestions I can get.

    I’ll put this into practice starting tonight.

    thanks again for the feedback.

    ~ Justin

    • Drew Baye Jan 5, 2011 @ 16:58

      Justin,

      You’re welcome. Let us know how it goes.

  • Trygve Jul 5, 2012 @ 4:54

    Hello
    I was wondering if there is any fast athletes or sprinters that does the superslow training?

    It seems like all the fast athletes in terms of 0-20 meter acceleration and also sprinters do their weight training with 1-5 repetitions. The reps will be slow ofc in this scheme but it want last long. They say this is the best rep range for developing explosivness and strenght without growth (hypertrophy). What is your thoughts on what the best weight training is for fast athletes and athletes that want to become faster and more explosive?

    • Drew Baye Jul 6, 2012 @ 7:51

      Trygve,

      The best strength training for any athlete will involve a slow speed of movement and a more conservative repetition range for safety and control (adjusted for speed of movement/rep duration).

      The ratio of strength gains to hypertrophy from training is largely genetically dictated and not a matter of repetition ranges and loads as many believe. Much of the basis for this belief is selection bias. People who gain a lot of strength relative to size will tend to excel at and be drawn to activities and sports requiring a high strength to body weight ratio, people who gain a lot of size relative to strength will tend to excel at and be drawn to activities like bodybuilding (which is a type of pageant, not a sport). Of course they’re going to claim their training is geared towards the goals of their sport or activity but they can no more train for a certain strength to size ratio or for one exclusive of the other than a basketball player can train to get taller or a boxer can train for longer arms.

  • Zidan Dec 25, 2013 @ 19:26

    Drew,
    You’re really knowledgeable about fitness and health – REALLY knowledgeable. But how? You’ll probably tell me you’ve taken some educational course on the topic and done a tonne of research, but what about the other ‘coaches’ I’ve met who have also taken educational courses? Why is there such a contract between what you say and they say? Could you help me understand this please?

    • Drew Baye Dec 31, 2013 @ 16:35

      Zidan,

      Don’t mistake education or experience for knowledge. You can have both and not know a thing if you’re not intelligent enough to really learn from them.

      What I write and say contradicts most of what is said in this field because most trainers and coaches don’t really know what they’re talking about.

  • Ben Apr 11, 2014 @ 23:56

    Drew,

    As always, it a pleasure to read articles you write. They are very informative. When talking fast twitch muscle recruitment within the golf swings are there any movement or exercises I can specifically apply HIT to increase my swing speed. From my understanding Type II and Type IIx are what give the swing its speed. What are your takes on this and training these type of muscle.

    Ben

    • Drew Baye Apr 15, 2014 @ 11:17

      Ben,

      It isn’t necessary to perform any specific exercises to improve your swing speed; a well-balanced high intensity training program including a few basic exercises working all the major muscle groups is all you need.

  • James Spella Jun 21, 2016 @ 21:53

    That is the absolute best explaination on the subject I have ever read. Excellent!!