High Intensity Strength Training for Cardiovascular Conditioning and Fat Loss

Had a great workout today. Nauseous, dizzy and my heart is pounding. Usually, I couldn’t care less what my heart rate (HR) is. It’s not that important. Resting HR is not an indication of one’s state of health, and HR elevation during exercise is a secondary consideration, and not something one should use as an indication of an effective workout. But, as hard as it’s beating, it’s certainly got my attention. My average resting HR is in the low 50’s, so the approximately 120 BPM I’m experiencing right now (roughly 5 minutes after my workout) is over twice normal.

I spoke with Arthur Jones regarding the subject this morning. He stated, and I agree, “six weeks of proper strength training can improve one’s cardiovascular fitness to a degree that is impossible with any number of years of aerobics.”

This reminds me of something Arthur said during an interview with Stephen Langer, MD on the show Medicine Man in the early 1980’s,

“…the lifting of weights is so much superior for the purpose of improving the cardiovascular condition of a human being that whatever is in second place is not even in the running, no pun intended. That is to say, running is a very poor, a very dangerous, a very slow, a very inefficient, a very nonproductive method for eventually producing a very limited, low order of cardiovascular benefit. Any, ANY, result that can be produced by any amount of running can be duplicated and surpassed by the proper use of weight lifting for cardiovascular benefits. Now I realize that there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people in this country who don’t understand that, who don’t believe that, who will not admit that. Now these people are simply uninformed. Certainly, it’s possible to run with no benefit, it’s possible to lift weights with no benefit. I’m talking about the proper use of weight lifting; and properly applied, weight lifting will improve your cardiovascular benefit to a degree that is impossible to attain with any amount of running.”

When properly performed, strength training meets all the requirements for cardiovascular conditioning. Assuming that one trains intensely enough and allows no rest between exercises, HR can be elevated to a tremendous degree and maintained throughout the workout. Some of the highest HR’s on record were achieved by subjects performing high intensity strength training during Nautilus Project: Total Conditioning at West Point Military Academy. Cadet’s maintained HR’s of 205-225 BPM for periods of 35 to 40 minutes during the workouts.

Your heart has no idea what you’re using your muscles for, whether it is running, cycling, swimming, strength training, etc. If the muscles are working harder, the cardiovascular system must also work harder to supply the working muscles with oxygen and remove the metabolic-by products of intense muscular work. Some supposed “experts” claim that for an activity to qualify as “aerobic,” or to be effective for cardiovascular conditioning, it must involve continuous, or “steady-state” work of the muscles in the lower body, such as is the case in running or cycling. This simply is not true. I can understand how they would come to this conclusion though. Since most people have much more muscle mass in their legs than in any other part of the body, it is easy to achieve a significant degree of HR elevation by performing only moderate intensity activity using those muscles. Most upper body exercises, however, do not involve enough muscle mass to place a significant demand on the cardiovascular system if only performed with a moderate degree of intensity.

The majority of these so-called “experts” have never properly performed a single set of high intensity exercise in their lives, much less an entire high intensity workout. And, if they strength train at all, they do so using such fast movements that meaningful muscular loading is almost entirely non-existent, and probably rest so long between exercises that any degree of HR elevation achieved quickly subsides. These people have no experience with real high intensity training, no idea what truly intense muscular work is, and no idea what kind of demand proper exercise places on the cardiovascular system.

It is not uncommon for endurance athletes, who typically consider themselves to be in superior cardiovascular condition and who have performed what they believed to be proper strength training in the past, to comment on how much of a demand high intensity strength training places on their cardiovascular system. Even marathon runners and triathletes, athletes that many consider to be the picture of cardiovascular fitness, have asked to be allowed to pause and rest in the middle of their workouts, claiming they needed to “catch their breath.”

As long as one is working some significant part of their body at a high degree of intensity, there will be a demand on the cardiovascular system, and as long as one does not allow a significant degree of rest between exercises, the HR will remain elevated for the duration of the workout. Properly performed, strength training does everything aerobics is supposed to do, more safely, more efficiently, and more effectively. Why destroy your musculoskeletal system for the sake of your cardiovascular system doing aerobics, when you can improve both with properly performed high intensity strength training?

This reminds me of something else Arthur said today, “…rather than be remembered as the man who saved America’s hearts, Cooper [Kenneth Cooper, MD, the “Father of Aerobics”] will more likely be remembered as the man who ruined America’s knees.”

A large percentage of the improvements in physical or athletic performance and physiological changes such as a decrease in resting heart rate (RHR) that many people assume to be caused by improvements in cardiovascular efficiency, are actually due to increases in muscular strength and endurance and improvements in metabolic conditioning.

There is no correlation between resting heart rate (RHR) and physical fitness. RHR alone is not an indication of one’s level of physical fitness. It is simply a clinical measurement, and must be considered within the context of various other factors. While a RHR in the low 40’s is often considered to be a sign of superior physical condition, within the context of other symptoms such as sweating, chills, abnormally low body temperature and a pale complexion it would be an indication of a serious medical emergency. However, a change in one’s average RHR may be an indication of an improvement or decrease in one’s level of fitness. A decrease in one’s RHR is usually attributed to an improvement in cardiovascular fitness, and is assumed to be an indication of an increase in stroke volume and ejection fraction. However, a decrease in RHR is more likely the result of an improvement in metabolic conditioning. It is not so much a matter of an increase in cardiac output as it is an improvement in the muscles’ ability to utilize what’s being sent to them, which decreases the demand placed on the heart, both at rest and during intense physical activity. Not to mention the degree to which cardiac output can be increased is very limited, and very quickly achieved by proper training. Past a certain point, increases in the size of myocardia would begin to actually decrease the volume of the left ventricle and obstruct outflow through the aorta, which would decrease cardiac output. This is common in athletes who abuse cocaine.

Improvements in metabolic condition probably contribute much more to decreases in RHR and in HR elevation during intense physical activity than increases in cardiac output. Such metabolic conditioning can be achieved through proper strength training. It’s the muscles ability to use what’s being sent to them, more than the heart’s ability to send it that’s important.

What amazes me is that despite the fact the Surgeon General has basically stated any activity slightly more demanding than watching TV when performed regularly will help improve and maintain cardiovascular fitness, there are people who will say that high intensity strength training, which may be the most brutally demanding form of physical activity ever devised, will do nothing for the heart. That this is nonsense should go without saying. And, if all that is necessary for cardiovascular fitness is going for a short walk or working in the yard, or performing some other light activity for a few minutes every day, then why do hundreds of thousands of people insist on destroying their joints and spines by jogging? Because they believe it will help them lose fat? More nonsense.

Aerobics does not burn enough calories to be worth performing for that purpose. If a person does something for the sole purpose of burning calories, their time is not worth much. A 150-pound man running at a 7mph pace will burn, at most, about 8 kcals per minute, or 480 calories per hour. He would probably burn about 100 of those kcals if he sat and did nothing for an hour, so the actual extra kcals expended as a result of the activity would amount to only 400 or so. If he did this every night for a week, he wouldn’t burn enough calories to equal the amount stored in one pound of fat. Such a high volume and frequency of running probably would cause a significant loss of muscle though. Since a muscle yields only 600 kcals, compared to the 3,500 kcals in a pound of fat, it would be possible to lose over 4 pounds of week in such a manner if one was losing muscle weight. Note that most habitual joggers, marathon and ultra-distance runners, and other obsessive/compulsive aerobics addicts often have the sickly skeletal appearance of Nazi death-camp refugees and AIDS victims. This is hardly a healthy appearance.

The only effective way to create a negative net-calorie balance is to follow a reduced calorie diet. It’s much easier and far more time efficient to simply eat less, than to spend hours a day, several days a week pounding your joints on the pavement or slaving away on some oversized hamster-wheel. And when you’re not wasting hours a week on the stepper or treadmill, you’re going to get much better results from your strength training. If one truly desires to increase their caloric expenditure, then it is strength training they should focus on.

Aerobics only burns calories while you’re doing it, and damn few at that. Some people will point out that the metabolism is also elevated for several hours afterwards, but this increase is negligible, and hardly worth it. Aerobics can cause you to burn fewer calories the rest of the time though, since when taken too far it can cause a loss of muscle, and can prevent your body from producing the increases in muscular strength and size stimulated during strength training.

Strength training, on the other hand, increases the amount of calories your body burns all the time, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Every pound of muscle added to the body of an adult human increases caloric expenditure by an average of 30 calories per day. If one gains only 5 pounds of muscle, which most previously untrained subjects can achieve in a matter of weeks, one’s average daily caloric expenditure is increased by 150, for an increase in weekly caloric expenditure of 1,050, the amount of calories in one third of a pound of body fat.

More importantly though, proper strength training is necessary to ensure discriminate weight loss while dieting.

If one diets, or does aerobics, or both, but does no strength training, the weight lost will come from a combination of fat, muscle, and organ tissue. Muscle is a very highly metabolically active tissue, and when your body perceives a reduction in caloric intake, it’s going to try to adapt by reducing its caloric expenditure. One of the most effective means of accomplishing this is to decrease the amount of metabolically expensive tissue, one of the most expensive being muscle. Strength training is necessary to ensure that the body maintains, and hopefully increases muscle mass while fat is lost.

And no, combining aerobics and strength training won’t produce better results. Adding aerobics usually makes things worse. It can prevent much of the improvements stimulated by the strength training workouts, and keep you chronically fatigued and hungry. Research by Westcott and Darden has demonstrated strength training and diet produce greater improvements in body composition when not performed in conjunction with aerobics.

So what is a moderately reduced calorie diet? Just that, a moderate reduction in caloric intake. There are several ways to determine the amount of calories one should consume while trying to lose fat. Mike Mentzer recommends recording your average daily caloric intake over a period of 5 days to and comparing it to changes in bodyweight to estimate average daily caloric expenditure. If your weight stays the same, your intake equals your expenditure, if you lose, your intake is less than your expenditure, if you gain, your intake exceeds your expenditure. Once you determine your average daily caloric expenditure, subtracting 500 from this amount will give you the number of calories you must consume in a day to produce a rate of fat loss of approximately one pound per week.

Another means of estimating caloric intake for fat loss is to multiply your lean body mass in pounds by 10, (absolute minimal number being 1,000) and then adding 200 to this number. The result is your daily caloric intake for the first two weeks of a six-week dieting cycle. During weeks 3 and 4 you would consume 100 less calories per day, and during weeks 5 and 6, 200 less calories per day. If after the end of the six weeks you have more fat to lose, repeat the cycle.

For example:

A 140-pound woman, with 25% body fat would have 35 pounds of fat and 105 pounds of lean tissue. 105 multiplied by 10 would give us a minimal average daily caloric intake of 1050 calories. Her 6-week cycle would be as follows:

Weeks 1-2: 1,250 cals/day
Weeks 3-4: 1,150 cals/day
Weeks 5-6: 1,050 cals/day

A 250-pound man, with 25% body fat would have 62.5 pounds of fat and 187.5 pounds of lean tissue. 187.5 multiplied by 10 would give us a minimal average daily caloric intake of 1875 calories. His 6-week cycle would be as follows:

Weeks 1-2: 2,075 cals/day
Weeks 3-4: 1,975 cals/day
Weeks 5-6: 1,875 cals/day

Once you achieve the degree of leanness you want, simply gradually increase your average daily caloric intake by 100 kcals every week until you stop losing fat to determine your maintenance level. Realize that even though total caloric intake is reduced while on a diet, your average daily protein intake in grams should remain the same. The reduction in calories should come from carbohydrate and fat intake.

Aerobics is simply not necessary for fat loss and makes no meaningful contribution to a fat loss program. I’ve supervised enough diet programs, and trained enough people who’s goal was weight loss to state with absolute certainty that one can dramatically improve their body composition in a matter of weeks with a proper diet and strength training program alone. Ellington Darden, PhD has issued a challenge to anyone to produce documentation (measurements and standardized before/after photographs) of better results from a fat loss program than those he has produced during his research for his diet and exercise books, and so far, nobody has produced anything even close.

May 2012 Update:

While energy balance is a key factor in fat loss the types of food eaten and their effects on hormonal environment are of equal if not greater importance. Please read Opinions on Nutrition for more.

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9 Responses to High Intensity Strength Training for Cardiovascular Conditioning and Fat Loss

  1. Atul Kumar July 2, 2009 at 4:53 am #

    What wealth of information and what convincing logic. Drew, you are truly an encyclopeadia of the science of fitness and excercise. Whenever I need authoritative information on an topic,I read your articles. To me you are truly a legend.Wow! Atul

    • Drew Baye July 9, 2009 at 5:51 pm #

      Thank you Atul, I do my best to provide useful information.

  2. Gordon November 6, 2009 at 11:26 pm #

    Several years ago I maintained a routine of very intense strength-training but quit. At that time I was lean, had maxed out my university gym’s 100kg chest-press machine to the extent that it was no longer of real use to me, and I could run forever. I thought that the official advice (which we get in the UK as well) that walking is a great exercise sounded plausible; I thought “heck, I don’t want to be Superman any more, just healthy.” so I did no exercise apart from frequent very long walks, often at a very brisk pace.

    The result was that a short while later I had insufficient fitness for anything more intense than walking.

    The body experiences conditions, adapts to them, reverts when the conditions are removed – period.

    I should add that in spite of this abundant low-intensity activity, I got fat and eventually came to notice a chronic feeling of sluggishness; the general reduction in what I can honestly best describe as ‘life force’ was palpable.

    And I did a LOT of walking. So yeah – I feel qualified to call bullshit on that advice. I now tell everyone to just at least do some push-ups and squats, especially women who have been conditioned to fear muscular exercise and are apt to opt for walking or an aerobics vid instead.

    Actually Drew, do you know a good online guide for calisthenics?


  3. Marek June 16, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    Hi Drew,

    I’m following an intensive resistance training schedule, with workouts every 4 days. And on the days in between I get the urge to go swimming, or do kettle bell swings, just to help build up my overall energy levels and stamina. And because I just enjoy it!

    Do you think putting my energy into these extra exercises is reducing the benefit I get from the resistance training? I tend to do nothing but rest the day directly after.


    • Drew Baye June 18, 2012 at 9:09 am #


      I don’t recommend kettlebell training, but if you enjoy swimming or other physical activities go ahead and do them. As long as you’re not doing an excessive amount and you’re eating and sleeping well the impact on your training progress should be minimal. If not, either cut back a little or give yourself more time to recover between workouts.

  4. JasonC May 2, 2015 at 9:29 am #

    I am currently studying Sport and Exercise science at college and had a recent assignment to create a 6 week plan for a 1500m runner and a shot putter. For the cardiovascular and aerobic aspect for muscular enduranceI put in a high intense circuit, 90-120 seconds of three exercises taken to failure, leg press, lat pulldown and shoulder press, cycled three times, as youve logically and reasonably pointed out is a superior, efficient and SAFE way to improve these things. I got a failure! I was told HIT training doesnt improve cardiovacular od aerobic endurance. Maybe promote hypertrophy but nothing else! I invited them to do it just once and see for themselves. I do it and have a 1.5 mile running time of less than 8 minutes at 200 pounds. But there you go. To pass looks like Ill have to bite the bullet and put in steady state running for my ‘aerobic, and ‘cardiovascular’ improvement. Whats more, to get a distinction Ill have to justify it as well!

    • Drew Baye May 3, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

      Hey Jason,

      I had the same experience when I was in college. When answering questions on tests I would write two answers, “the answer you want is…” followed by “however, the actual answer is…” or “however, this question is based on the erroneous assumption that…” or something to that nature. I would also raise my hand in class and correct the professor on answers he gave to other students. During one class when the subject of strength training came up he finally became so frustrated with this he lost his temper and said, “If you know so much why don’t you get up and teach the class?” So I did, and they probably learned more of value in the remainder of that class than they did during the entire rest of the semester.

      Of course, I didn’t get a very good grade, and if you want to pass and eventually graduate you’ve got to play along somewhat. Just be aware that most of what is taught about exercise application in exercise physiology, kinesiology, and physical therapy courses is nonsense, and question everything they tell you.

  5. JasonC May 2, 2015 at 9:35 am #

    Drew, you should have a section for HIT advocates who can tell their stories about being confronted, ridiculed and dismissed by fitness ‘professionals’ and others for their HIT principles! Well, the more thess professionals disagree with me about HIT, the more I know Im on to something! When I start finding myself agreeing with them, Ill start to worry!

    • Drew Baye May 3, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

      Hey Jason,

      Something like this would require a forum, which to maintain the quality and civility of discussion would require moderation, which would be a significant expense which could only be justified if enough people were paying for membership in the forum. Unfortunately, despite the tremendous value the discussions and information would provide very few people would be willing to pay for it. This is why despite the massive amount of information I have published for free on this web site I always hold the best back for inclusion in my books and for my one-on-one and long-distance clients.

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