Comments on: Explosive Training http://baye.com/explosive-training/ High Intensity Training and Nutrition for Bodybuilding, Fitness and Health Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:47:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Drew Baye http://baye.com/explosive-training/comment-page-1/#comment-1509 Drew Baye Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:50:49 +0000 http://baye.com/?p=58#comment-1509 The low injury rate of Olympic lifters is more likely the result of survivorship bias than the safety of the activity. There is no general fitness or health benefit the Olympic lifts provide that can not be obtained more safely by performing other, safer exercises involving the same muscle groups. That's great that you are able to train despite your spondylolisthesis, and I wish you lifelong health and functionality, but I would recommend against exercises like snatches and kettlebell swings. The low injury rate of Olympic lifters is more likely the result of survivorship bias than the safety of the activity. There is no general fitness or health benefit the Olympic lifts provide that can not be obtained more safely by performing other, safer exercises involving the same muscle groups.

That’s great that you are able to train despite your spondylolisthesis, and I wish you lifelong health and functionality, but I would recommend against exercises like snatches and kettlebell swings.

]]> By: erik petersen http://baye.com/explosive-training/comment-page-1/#comment-1499 erik petersen Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:42:54 +0000 http://baye.com/?p=58#comment-1499 Olympic weightlifters have such a low injury rate that it's actually statistically insignificant. You should have a chat with Gray Cook, one of the brightest physical therapists around. He has aligned himself with Dragon Door, the kettlebell (amongst other modalities) organization in Minneapolis. Can you say Ballistic!! Really, it all starts with good movement patterns, don't have them..Get Them! Anyone walking around with impaired movement patterns will eventually hurt themselves doing just about anything, especially if it's repetitive, ie. strength training...just cements mobility issues and postural issues and you will be in pain, sooner or later. I also don't think that the "explosive" proponents are saying that snatching resembles a particular movement, therefore making you a better athlete, rather, snatching, jerking, etc. makes you better at movement in general...Big difference! By the way, Mannie needs to get with the 21st century, just look at his sources...so much has come out in the last 10 years. Would you like me to give a list ? Bottom line, if you are balanced (lots of people are not) and have good control of your body, snatch away! I'm going now and taking m 45 year old self (including a grade1 spondylolisthesis that I was born with) out to my garage and do some kettlebell swings and snatches. Olympic weightlifters have such a low injury rate that it’s actually statistically insignificant. You should have a chat with Gray Cook, one of the brightest physical therapists around. He has aligned himself with Dragon Door, the kettlebell (amongst other modalities) organization in Minneapolis. Can you say Ballistic!! Really, it all starts with good movement patterns, don’t have them..Get Them! Anyone walking around with impaired movement patterns will eventually hurt themselves doing just about anything, especially if it’s repetitive, ie. strength training…just cements mobility issues and postural issues and you will be in pain, sooner or later. I also don’t think that the “explosive” proponents are saying that snatching resembles a particular movement, therefore making you a better athlete, rather, snatching, jerking, etc. makes you better at movement in general…Big difference! By the way, Mannie needs to get with the 21st century, just look at his sources…so much has come out in the last 10 years. Would you like me to give a list ? Bottom line, if you are balanced (lots of people are not) and have good control of your body, snatch away! I’m going now and taking m 45 year old self (including a grade1 spondylolisthesis that I was born with) out to my garage and do some kettlebell swings and snatches.

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